Where will the proposed new White Rose station be located?
What other locations for the station have been considered?
What is the purpose of the station?
Was the line between Outwood and Leeds, which runs close to the White Rose Center to the east, considered at any point as a possible location for a new station as part of this process?
This question was received from a member of the public through the Q&A section of the engagement page.
The Wakefield Line between Outwood and Leeds has not been considered as a location for a White Rose station because the proposed station location on the Huddersfield Line between Cottingley and Morley is significantly closer to the White Rose shopping centre, local communities of Cottingley, Churwell, Millshaw, Morley and the White Rose Office Park.A new station study in 2014 examined three locations on the Wakefield line between Outwood and Leeds, two sites in East Ardsley and a site at Elland Road/Beeston. However, these locations were not recommended for further business case development at this stage.
Why do you think White Rose shoppers will use a station over 1km from the shopping centre?
This question was received from a member of the public through the Q&A section of the engagement page.
The strategic purpose of White Rose Rail Station is not only to connect shoppers and employees to the White Rose Shopping Centre. It is also to serve the local community demand from Cottingley, Churwell, Millshaw and Morley (with potential for a bus/rail interchange at White Rose Shopping Centre), and connect people to jobs, education and training opportunities at existing and new development in the White Rose Office Park area.The proposed station location is significantly less than 1 kilometre (circa 450 metres) from the White Rose Shopping Centre.
What provision will the station have for car parking?
Will station car parking by charged?
Will buses serve the new rail station?
Will the station be staffed?
What passenger waiting facilities will the station have?
Will the station have facilities to purchase a ticket?
Will the station have toilets?
Will the station have lifts and be compliant to modern accessibility standards?
Yes, the station will be designed to the latest accessibility standards which will include the provision of passenger lifts to both platforms. Cross platform access will be through the existing pedestrian underpass.
Who will be responsible for operating and managing the station?
Our current assumption is Northern will operate and manage the station. This, however, might be subject to change as the station is more developed and this will be reviewed as part of the wider considerations for the Combined Authority.
What facilities will be provided for cyclists?
Will the station have CCTV?
How long will the platforms be and will they be able to accommodate 6 car trains?
This question was received from a member of the public through the Q&A section of the engagement page.
At this stage it is envisaged that platforms will not only accommodate 6
carriage trains, but also leave passive provision through future proofing
design to extend platform length to accommodate 8 carriage trains, should
future rolling stock offer provision for this. Proposals are at an early stage
and access arrangements will be determined as the scheme progresses.
Will footpath/bike access be added from the proposed new station towards Churwell (perhaps behind the allotments, heading towards Tesco Express), rather than just linking to Elland Road by Churwell viaduct? It would seem sensible to link the residential areas directly west of the proposed station instead of just the White Rose Centre and office park.
At this stage it is envisaged that pedestrian and cycle access to a new
station would be developed as part of the wider masterplan proposals of the
Developer. Aspirations are at an early stage and access arrangements will
be determined as the scheme progresses.
Where is the parking? How can you add buildings to the Arlington when there is already no-where near enough parking to park? I work at Capita and we already have nowhere to park, new people are just told to park at White Rose or on the streets, this is crazy talk!
The strategic purpose of the proposed White Rose railway station is to promote and encourage new rail journeys, to and from the local areas of Cottingley, Churwell, Millshaw, & Morley. The proposed new station would provide a viable alternative to the private car and should also help to alleviate parking issues within the local area.
The station would aim to connect people by rail to local jobs, education and training opportunities, at existing and new business developments, whilst also connecting shoppers and employees to the White Rose shopping centre. There would also be the potential for bus and rail interchange, at the White Rose shopping centre bus station.Vehicular access, drop off and blue badge holder parking spaces would be provided at the station. We are keen to improve access to the local rail network through sustainable modes of transport and will explore opportunities to improve the walking and cycling access to the proposed station, as part of the development work.
As you have apparently ruled out any provision of a 'Park and Ride' facility at the White Rose Station what is being done to deter those people who will use the White Rose Centre car parks to access the train services to Leeds either to work in the centre or to gain onward services to other parts of Leeds or West Yorkshire? These cars will take up car parking spaces all day in what is, on most days at least, a very busy and full car park. This will inconvenience people who want to either shop at the White Rose Centre or visit the attractions there as there will be even less car parking spaces than there are now. Do you and the White Rose Centre have any plans to curtail this usage of the car parking spaces provided for the customers of the Centre? This is already a problem in Morley itself, especially in the Morrisons Car Park and other free car parking areas around Morley Centre.
Proposals are at a very early stage. As they progress, The Combined Authority and Leeds City Council will work closely with White Rose shopping centre to develop a management strategy to ensure that the car park facilities at White Rose shopping centre are used appropriately for their customers.
In your piece about the expected development of the White Rose station you stated that you were envisaging a Bus/Rail interchange there. As part of this do you have any plans or ideas of providing a 'Park and Ride' facility at this location? I am sure that if there was one it would be well used considering the number of people from that area that leave their cars parked in both Morley centre (Morrisons etc.) and Morley station and then catch either the bus or train into Leeds and points further.
Rather than generate additional park and ride car journeys, the strategic purpose of White Rose Rail Station is to:
How will shoppers get to the white rose shopping centre from the station. It is some distance.
At this early stage, it is envisaged that rail users would access the
White Rose Shopping Centre via pedestrian high-line walkway. Concepts for this
access outline the high-line walkway running immediately out of the proposed
station building to the shopping centre bus hub, circa 450 metres. Proposals
are at an early stage and access arrangements will be determined as the scheme
Although I do support building this station to accommodate 6 car trains as envisaged and I applaud the WYCA for future proofing this station to accommodate 8 car trains, the three most recent stations within the Leeds City Region at 'Low Moor', 'Kirkstall Forge' and 'Apperley bridge' were all built with platforms only long to accommodate 4 car trains and apparently this new station at Elland is to be built with platforms long enough for 5 car trains. My question is: why is it considered necessary to construct platforms so long when technology such as SDO, (Selective Door Opening) exists?
We have been working closely with the Train Operating Companies on the
route to determine the most appropriate length of platforms based on the types
and length of rolling stock that are most likely deployed on the route.
It is felt that 6-car length platforms are more appropriate for this
location given the nature of the route and this will provide the flexibility to
accommodate 6-car trains in this location. For a brand new station, we
would like to provide maximum flexibility to cater for different operational
scenarios in the future whenever possible.
What has been done so far?
West Yorkshire Combined Authority and Leeds City Council, working in partnership with Munroe K, has appointed a development partner to progress the outline business case for a rail station at White Rose on the Huddersfield line. The outline business case including technical and business case work will be completed by Spring 2019. The implementation of the scheme will be subject to the relevant rail industry approvals, availability of funding, and technical and business case feasibility.
Is the proposed railway station at White Rose definitely going ahead and how will it be funded?
When is it likely to be open?
How much will the new station cost?
What other engagement will be taking place in the future?
What train services will call at the station?
How many carriages will the platforms be able to accommodate? Will this be able to cater for future growth?
Trains on this line are already very congested. Will building this station make a journey even more crowded?
When will the Transpennine Route Upgrade be delivered?
Will the trains go via Bramley west yorkshire
The proposed station is on the route from Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Victoria (via Huddersfield and Leeds) to York so the trains will therefore not go via Bramley.
How will the provision of this station impact the proposals for a standard 40 minute service between Leeds and Manchester? There appears to be little space to provide passing loops at the station so those aspirations will require either careful timetabling or improved provision for slower trains to be overtaken between Huddersfield and Dewsbury so that trains stopping at White Rose do not cause a bottleneck. Why does the artist's impression not include electrification?
Proposals are at a very early stage, The Combined Authority and Leeds City Council will work with the rail industry and Transport for the North to work out a timetable that best serves the demand for passengers on this route. An operating timetable would be determined as the scheme progresses.The artist impressions are only intended to illustrate our proposals for the new station. We await an announcement from the Department for Transport on the separate proposals for the potential electrification of the railway at this location as part of the TransPennine Route Upgrade, which is expected by the end of the year. The Combined Authority’s policy position is to support the electrification of this route.
Can you tell me please where abouts will trains run from with leeds to white rose shopping centre please
The proposed station location is on the straight section of track south of Elland Road A643 (Churwell viaduct) – illustrations below:
Proposals are at a very early stage, The Combined Authority and Leeds City Council will work with the rail industry and Transport for the North to work out a timetable that best serves the demand for passengers on this route. An operating timetable would be determined as the scheme progresses.
I feel it would be good to have a rail route from Wetherby toThorp Arch, Harrogate, York, Leeds, Otley, Ilkley Manchester Liverpool and Chester. Mrfs Maureen Brewer. B.E.M.
At present West Yorkshire Combined Authority has no plans for reopening
a railway line to Wetherby or Thorpe Arch and is focused on working with
Transport for the North to press the case for the new High Speed Rail 2 and
Northern Powerhouse Rail network lines. However, the Combined Authority
is developing a new rail strategy and reviewing network gaps, including
reopening lines, new stations, services and infrastructure will be part of the
Combined Authority’s considerations.
These stations will not affect me at all. I would like to know if there are any plans to reinstate a station in Wetherby. Thanks
At present the West Yorkshire Combined Authority has no plans for
reopening a railway line to Wetherby and is focused on working with Transport
for the North to press the case for the new High Speed Rail 2 and Northern
Powerhouse Rail network lines. However, the Combined Authority is
developing a new rail strategy and reviewing network gaps, including reopening
lines, new stations, services and infrastructure will be part of the Combined
Would there be additional trains? Does Leeds station to handle additional trains. Would there be parking at White Rose to enable those working in central Leeds to commute reducing congestion and pollution in the city ?
Both Northern and TPE franchises are committed to introduce new trains and more carriages within the current franchises. We are working with the operators on the route through Rail North to influence their timetable and deployment of rolling stock so that trains are deployed in the way that benefits passengers.
Rather than generate additional park and ride car journeys, the strategic purpose of White Rose Rail Station is to;
Why cant trains take turns at stopping at Cottingley and White Rose? I believe two stations would be great for South Leeds regeneration
It is not finalised at this stage whether White Rose would be in addition to the station at Cottingley, or a replacement. With regard to the potential rail service, at this stage of development it is too early to know, however the Combined Authority and Leeds City Council will work with the rail industry and Transport for the North to work out a timetable that best serves the demand for passengers on this route.There is only one train per hour stopping at Cottingley rail station at the moment. Our aspiration is to provide 2 trains per hour at each station within West Yorkshire. This will be extremely challenging to achieve this level of services for both stations given the capacity on the route and the proximity of both locations.
The station will be very close to Cottingley station, how will Cottingley station be affected?
What improvements will be made to the local road and pedestrian and cycling network surrounding the proposed White Rose station?
The ring road is currently very congested, especially around the Millshaw roundabout. What plans are there to improve the flow of traffic and make sure that vehicle access to the rail station doesn't make things worse?
Has a Transport Impact Assessment been carried out?
Has an Environmental Impact Assessment been carried out?
Would the Morley station be closed due to the opening of White Rose station?
Thank you for your question. It is not expected
that the proposed White Rose Station will have any impact on Morley Rail
Station, which will remain open.
My concern is that if cottingley station was to close. Is how accessible the new station would be from within Cottingley estate. I live opposite the station.
Dependant on exactly where you live, the walk to the new station will take around eight minutes longer than the walk to the current station. Please see the below map for the details:
How will this station impact upon the already struggling retail sector in the City Centre?
You saying reducing cars of the road what about taxis they are the worst of. Why not bring tramp back in the service to area it will reducing car and buses problem for Leeds.
Proposals for a new rail station at White Rose do not include scope for the creation of new tram service in the area.
Will opening White Rose station mean the closure of Cottingley Station?
Thank you for your question. The location of the proposed
station is 750 metres south of the existing Cottingley station. Our
current work suggests that it might be difficult to accommodate the proposed
White Rose station in addition to the existing Cottingley station on the main
Trans-Pennine route. Department for Transport and the rail industry have expressed
strong concern regarding stopping services for both White Rose and Cottingley
due to their close proximity and the constraints in track capacity and its
potential performance impact on other services. Nevertherless, it is not
finalised at this stage whether White Rose would be in addition to the station
at Cottingley, or a replacement. We are keen to engage with local
communities in order to understand their needs and develop a scheme that best
serves their requirements.
Will there be access to the new station form Elland Road/Victoria Road A643?
At this stage it is envisaged that vehicular access to a new station
would be via Elland Road A643. Proposals are at an early stage and access
arrangements will be determined as the scheme progresses.
You have, apparently, ruled out a station for Elland Road. However could you not make a 'Stop' there to be used only during match days? Alternatively would you be prepared to provide a shuttle bus from the White Rose station to Elland Road on match days? This would make it easier for supporters of BOTH teams to get there whilst severally cutting down the congestion and, of course, the pollution caused by the number of vehicles attending on match days. The cost of the shuttle bus could be included in price of the rail ticket. This would, of course, necessitate the provision of extra trains and/or more carriages on match days. Would this be something that you would look at favourably considering the commitment of Leeds City Council in reducing pollution and congestion in the city?
A range of locations within the Leeds City Region were assessed for their potential to accommodate a new railway station. The potential for a new rail station at Elland Road (on the Wakefield Line) was assessed, but this location was not identified as a priority site.
The cost of developing and implementing a basic station is £10+million. New stations need to demonstrate a robust business case, with the economic benefits and additional revenue from new users outweighing the infrastructure costs and additional rolling stock costs. This would be particularly difficult to achieve if only operating to/from a station on match days.Proposals for a new rail station at White Rose do not include scope for the introduction of a match day shuttle bus.
Buses seem to go to and from the centre. What thought has gone into routes around the outside, connecting say headingley to chapel allerton without taking all day for such a journey?
Most bus services in Leeds operate on radial routes into and out of the city centre. There are two key reasons for this. The first being that the city centre is the largest employment and retail zone in the district. This makes it the most popular destination for trips by bus and car. In the future it is anticipated that most of the employment and retail growth will be in and around the city centre and the bulk of the housing growth outside the centre which means the demand for these trips is going to increase significantly. The second reason is that these routes are the most profitable. This is important as the bus services in West Yorkshire are operated privately and local government is unable to define the routes and or the fair costs.One of the key messages we have been hearing over the past 6 months with regards to the bus network is that people want to see more orbital routes, around the city centre connecting communities and smaller urban centres. The West Yorkshire Combined Authority, Leeds City Council and the bus operators have committed to reviewing the bus network as a whole and the viability/deliverability of orbital services. A fund worth several millions of pounds has been identified to help make this happen. We hope to announce further information in the coming months.
I am afraid that I am not qualified to take part in this survey as I live in Adel, Leeds, and never visit the White Rose centre
Thank you for your comment.
Are you going to have a stop at Elland road stadium on the white rose line? as there was previously just seems to make sense to prevent trouble in the city and congestion on the busses to the ground???
A range of locations within the Leeds City Region were assessed for
their potential to accommodate a new railway station. The potential for a new
rail station at Elland Road (on the Wakefield Line) was assessed, but this
location was not identified as a priority site due to the limited availability
of land and capacity on the line.
Would the White Rose station affect the nearby Arlington Business Centre at all?
The proposed rail station at White Rose is expected to have a positive
effect on local business, including the businesses located at the Arlington
Business Centre. This was a deciding factor in the selection of White Rose as a
preferred station location, with the station providing enhanced connectivity to
the jobs market across the Leeds City Region and beyond.